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By accessing any information upon this website, using this website or any of the copyrighted materials on this website, you agree that you have entered into the following contract as a User, and that you are not a Client the Firm by virtue of this contract or any of the materials contained on this website.

 

Your use of this website and affiliated websites is subject to the following terms, conditions, warranties, disclaimers, and limitations.

 

We, Love & Yeggy (this "Firm"), not only suggest that you (the "User") read this page, but also materially rely on your reading and accepting this page and the following terms, conditions, warranties, disclaimers, and limitations by your actions.  By accessing this or affiliated websites, reading the information contained therein, or by submitting information you agree that you have read, accepted, and agree to be bound by the statements herein.

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  • Are you a client, and is this legal advice?

    (No, that would be irresponsible of us)

    No. Unless you have entered into an express, separate, written agreement with this Firm to create such a relationship, you are not a client of this Firm.

     

    If you have entered into such an agreement, please read the agreement carefully to see the terms, conditions, and limitations of such representation. Your attorney will be glad to explain the agreement and any letters you may have been sent.

     

    The information and materials in this and affiliated websites have been prepared by this firm for informational purposes and are not legal advice. Please note that any prior results, examples, information, or commentary described by this firm or herein do not guarantee or even predict any type of outcome, favorable or not. By your use of this and affiliated websites, you agree that no legal advice is given and no attorney-client relationship is created.

     

    The examples are not based on any specific facts and details given to us by any of the users of these websites or our clients, but rather address hypothetical situations that by their very nature are thought experiments created to highlight a point and are disassociated from any actual situation. They are not legal advice.

     

    We have not investigated the merits of the matter that may have brought you to look at any information, and we decline to take any matter without an express, separate, written agreement with this firm. In declining to undertake this matter, the Firm is not expressing an opinion on any of your matters.

     

    Email solicitations for pro bono help are not accepted.

     

    Please be aware that whatever claim, if any, that you may have may be barred by the passage of time. Because deadlines may be critical in your case, the Firm recommends that you immediately contact and engage an appropriately licensed firm or attorney for assistance regarding your matter. You should not act or forgo to act on the basis of the information contained in this or affiliated websites.

  • If our website is accessible in your state or country, does it mean that we are advertising to you?

    (Possibly.)

    Possibly, but this website is not an offer and may be inadvertently inaccurate. As a user you agree to notify us of any potential inaccuracies. Users and the firm agree that no offer is being made by this website or the statements within it, and no contractual relationship may be formed on the basis of this website except of course for the terms and conditions presented by this Firm in You & this Website. We limit our advertising and our practice by our ethical requirements, the jurisdictions of Illinois and Indiana.

     

    This website and the affiliated websites may be considered attorney advertising under the Supreme Court of Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct. Under rule 7.2 the name of one attorney responsible for the content of this website is William Love, at the Firm address or by email (site@LoveandYeggy.com). This website and affiliated websites are limited to the jurisdictions that the Attorneys of this Firm are licensed in, or in which we may legally practice.

     

    This website and affiliated Websites may constitute advertising under applicable laws, regulations and rules of professional responsibility of other states, however the intentional jurisdictional restrictions stated above and the policies of this firm that restricts its attorneys to practicing only in licensed jurisdictions is in place to limit this advertising. If this website and affiliated websites fails to comply with other state’s rules of professional responsibility, other bar’s rules, or the restrictions stated above, in those jurisdictions the firm does not claim either the ability to legally represent a user or the intent to advertise. This firm limits its practice, and at times limits its scope of representation. In these cases, the Firm does advertise in any way to these users and is not proposing to extend its services to these users.

  • Do our prior results mean we (or anyone) can obtain the same results for you?

    (No. We don't mislead you with poor logic.)

    No. Prior results do not guarantee a similar, a poor, a good, or any other type of outcome. We dislike misleading people with poor logic, please don't assume this.

     

    Even though a large majority of society feels comfortable with the notion that "past events predict future outcomes", most don't realize how limited this statement is. Most point to the science method, using it as an example that proves the rule, that past experiments can create a general rule. Ironically, this flips the intent and method of science (and statistics) on its head. It generalizes from experiences that cannot be the same (or even standardized), and perhaps more importantly from discrete events that if they were the same or standardized would not be enough to draw a somewhat reliable conclusion from. It is not a new issue with inductive logic, but it is a relevant one in this case (see David Hume's "Hume's Treatise of Human Nature" published 1739).

     

    Yes this point makes some people uncomfortable (if they look at their past decisions). But look at it from our viewpoint - we tell the truth to our clients even if it hurts. We would be poor advocates if we didn't know when others were trying to pull the wool over our client's eyes, and don't want to mislead our clients, potential clients, or users. It is one of the reasons we don't list our prior results specifically. (So look to our logic when we give you an opinion, or rely on an understanding we have that would be difficult or costly for you to acquire.) Our prior results, like everyone else's, don't predict future results.

     

    So are you risking something?

     

    Yes. Like in life, there is an element of risk in all legal matters. Attorneys could quantify this risk, but the numbers would be inherently wrong. (We dislike this as much as you dislike this.) For instance, a legal result opinion may vary according to the relationship between parties, the direct and indirect consequences to the parties, the cost and expenses of solutions, the differing jurisdictions involved the history and structure of the client's business, and the particular characteristics of the client. While attorneys may minimize risks and inform you of the risks, there is always an element of risk for all legal issues with all attorneys at all times.

     

    To put this more succinctly, the presence of risk and the threat of a consequence enforceable by government action means any type of opinion however limited must be tailored to the individual irrespective if your goal is to minimize either, or get a positive outcome. A legal opinion that is universal is no opinion at all.

  • Are we specialists? Are we experts? Why is this important?

    (No. It isn't something attorneys can claim even if they limit their practice.)

    No. Although we adore certain portions of the law, an attorney cannot claim that they are a specialist, certified, or an expert under the Supreme Court of Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct.

     

    The Supreme Court of Illinois does not recognize certifications of specialties in the practice of law. A certificate, award or recognition is not a requirement to practice law in Illinois. A lawyer may not use the terms “certified,’’ “specialist,’’ “expert,’’ or any other, similar terms to describe their qualifications as a lawyer or his qualifications in any sub-specialty of the law. A lawyer admitted to engage in patent practice before the United States Patent and Trademark Office may use the designation “Patent Attorney” or a substantially similar designation. However, a lawyer may communicate the fact that the lawyer does or does not practice in particular fields of law.

     

    This firm limits its practice, and at times limits its scope of representation.

     

    Why is it important not to be a specialist or an expert? It isn't what you knew that defines good representation, but what you can find out. The law changes, and perhaps more importantly society changes. Without an inquisitive mind and an eye towards solutions from a variety of sources, an attorney will be stuck in their "field" and a client can be stuck with a bad solution. An attorney should be an expert in advocating legal solutions to clients, not in putting customers into ill fitting boxes.

  • How we use your information.

    (Reasonably carefully.)

    We like privacy. We do not collect your information for the purposes of distribution to others, unless required to by law or with your consent. We do (obviously) collect the information you send to us intentionally or unintentionally, and you give us consent to use such information as we see fit, including but not limited to the information governed by the section titled "Are you a client, and is this legal advice?".  If you have questions about our data retention policy, please contact site@LoveandYeggy.com.

     

    All information collected by communications through this website may be reviewed and screened by our administrative staff before it may be passed to any attorney. The act of sending email, calling, or using other forms of communication with the attorneys at this firm does not create  attorney-client relationship. You consent that inquiries will not limit our representation of others, and represent that any initial consultation, representation, or other activity that would limit our representation of others has been explicitly agreed in writing by this firm.  Any information or files sent as part of an inquiry will not be privileged and may be freely disclosed to other parties.

  • How do you send us information and keep it confidential in transit?

    (Just set it up with us.)

    Talk to us. There is always a level of risk when communicating or storing data. The Internet and other forms of electronic communication are by their design not reasonably secure without further steps being taken, although there may be an expectation of privacy. The Firm requests that any information of a confidential, sensitive, or otherwise personal nature be communicated by a secure method.

     

    We can suggest some reasonable courses of action to clients in addition to not sending email using your workplace computer or email. Current clients can find our PGP public key here. Do not send us confidential information until you speak with on of our attorneys and receive authorization to send that information to us in a secure manner.

     

    Your providing any information to the Firm by any means (such as by email, phone, fax, messenger, or forms) will not create an agreement between us or an attorney-client relationship in the absence of an express, separate, written agreement with this Firm to create such a relationship, and will not prevent the Firm or any of its attorneys from representing someone else in connection with the matter in question or a related matter.  The Firm does not control or and is not responsible for any problem with a communication that causes it to not go where it is intended to go, or to become insecure.

  • Since the website, and therefore the Firm, suggested something should I rely on the suggestion or statement?

    (No. This website is not promising anything. We put our promises in signed written agreements)

    No. Any resources referenced in this website or affiliated websites under the control of this Firm can be verified by contacting this Firm directly at site@LoveandYeggy.com at this point in time.  However, unless indicated any resources referenced in this website or affiliated websites is not under the control of this Firm and the Firm is not responsible for any part of these third party resources. These links are only provided for convenience at the time of such posting of the links, and may not be current. The inclusion of links by the Firm on this or affiliated websites does not mean that the Firm recommends, approves, warranties, or endorses anything.

     

    This website, and all information available on or accessed through this website, is provided "as is" and the User represents and claims that they understand that the information presented should not be relied upon, does not address their specific situation. The User agrees and represents that unlike a written agreement with the Firm the statements made outside this page on this website should not be taken seriously unless verified by the Firm.  The Firm makes no warranties, representations, or claims of any kind concerning the information presented on or through this website.

     

    The use of this website is at the risk of the User. The materials presented on this website may not be the most current legal developments or information, or relevant. the materials may be changed, improved, or updated without notice. The User is responsible for any use, error, omission, injury, damages, or consequence resulting from the use or performance of this website under any circumstances, and the Firm is not responsible.

     

  • What about copyright and DMCA?

    (We are reasonable.)

    The Firm will process notices of any alleged infringement received and will take any needed steps or actions as required by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (the “DMCA”). Under the DMCA, notifications of claimed copyright infringement should be sent in writing to The Firm designated agent William Love. All requests should include all relevant information as delineated in 17 U.S.C. Section 512.

     

    The Firm claims copyright this website and to all the works on this website not previously copyrighted; we reserve all rights to these works.

     

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